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  • hawkattack06hawkattack06 Senior Barfly
    Looks like a very good hire on paper. Going to be tough to turn the Viking ship around.
  • NickskinNickskin Wealthy Alum
    edited September 2019
    Ryan Pedon gets pay raise at Ohio State with a new 2-year contract.



    Pedon, who made $395,000 each of the past two years, will be the
    highest-paid assistant coach for the third year in a row. He was given a
    six-figure raise and will make $500,000 each of the next two years

    ....


    If any of the assistant coaches choose to leave Ohio State to become a
    coach at the Division-I level or in the NBA before their contracts end,
    they would have to pay $50,000 and return "bonuses and supplemental
    compensation" to the university. They also won't be allowed to contact
    or recruit anybody that Ohio State had been recruiting unless their new
    team had also been recruiting the player.




    All three assistant coaches will be eligible for a trio of bonuses based on the team's performance:




    • Ohio State becomes Big Ten champions or co-champions: 8.5 percent raise

    • Ohio State reaches the Final Four: 8.5 percent raise

    • Ohio State wins the national championship: 15 percent raise


    Pedon, Johnson and Diebler also each have a stipend of $600 per month
    to pay for a car. They'll each get four tickets to home football games,
    eight tickets to home basketball games and four tickets to postseason
    basketball games.

    .
    Professor_Fategentbaseball12DICK
  • RenmancoRenmanco Wealthy Alum
    JWags said:

    Renmanco said:

    JWags said:

    UK is giving Calipari the Coach K contract. It's conceivable he could still bolt, but I doubt it.


    LA Times is now reporting that the leaders for the UCLA job are Jamie Dixon, Mick Cronin, and Randy (not Tony) Bennett.
    Those are three TERRIBLE options. Have some pride, UCLA.
    Willing to pay well short of what other Blue Bloods would pay (likely inflated contract numbers for Calipari aside), less resources, bad commercial flights.  If UCLA was any other school in the Pac 12 without the UCLA name, it would be teamed a lower level P6 job comparatively.
    I've been to Lexington and I've been to LA. If given the choice, I'd side with Cal even before we start talking money.
    There is that too. Cal is 60, he’s got a really nice thing going in Lexington, likes it there, will likely get a statue when he retires. He’s not a young buck with something to prove. Why go revive a fallen Giant that’s been a wasteland for a long time? His decision was a no brainer
    Nickskin said:

    Ryan Pedon gets pay raise at Ohio State with a new 2-year contract.



    Pedon, who made $395,000 each of the past two years, will be the
    highest-paid assistant coach for the third year in a row. He was given a
    six-figure raise and will make $500,000 each of the next two years

    ....


    If any of the assistant coaches choose to leave Ohio State to become a
    coach at the Division-I level or in the NBA before their contracts end,
    they would have to pay $50,000 and return "bonuses and supplemental
    compensation" to the university. They also won't be allowed to contact
    or recruit anybody that Ohio State had been recruiting unless their new
    team had also been recruiting the player.




    All three assistant coaches will be eligible for a trio of bonuses based on the team's performance:




    • Ohio State becomes Big Ten champions or co-champions: 8.5 percent raise

    • Ohio State reaches the Final Four: 8.5 percent raise

    • Ohio State wins the national championship: 15 percent raise


    Pedon, Johnson and Diebler also each have a stipend of $600 per month
    to pay for a car. They'll each get four tickets to home football games,
    eight tickets to home basketball games and four tickets to postseason
    basketball games.

    .
    Sweet deal all around.
  • thechuck_2112thechuck_2112 Wealthy Alum
    edited January 29

    I assume they will call Beard or Bennett (because their agents are interested, even if the coaches aren't), but this search process really shows the binds UCLA is in right now:

    • Fan base with wildly unrealistic expectations (although canning Howland when they did was arguably the right call because he'd lost the locker room entirely)
    • Athletic director who is both (1) pretty bad at his job and (2) completely unable to manage the fans' unrealistic expectations
    • Meaning the fan base hates the AD more than anyone here has ever hated Brad Bates, but for state university politics reasons (UC-system-wide), the administration is pretty content to let him do what he wants
    • So any marquee sport coach hired by the AD is looked at with severe mistrust from day one, meaning no honeymoon period of any kind that a coach in a high-pressure gig might otherwise expect, particularly when the last guy was fired and a rebuild is needed
    • Because UCLA is tied into the PAC 12 network fiasco, its ability to pay huge amounts of money to lure coaches has held steady or decreased at the same time other major conferences have gotten billion-dollar deals 
    • Even with the PAC 12's new scheme to sell the network rights to private equity investors for an immediate cash infusion, it's widely expected that the University of California system will take Cal and UCLA's share of that to pay general fund expenses of the entire UC rather than allowing the two campus athletic programs to keep it
    • And, to top it all off, $15 million of the limited money UCLA has sitting around for coaches is already tied up in the Mora and Alford buyouts.
    So, that's where we are: an impotent AD, a fan base that will want you fired from day one, and a systemic inability to pay enough money to make all that bullshit worthwhile.
    A postscript: UCLA AD Dan Guerrero is retiring with a department that was $19 million in debt for the 2018-19 school year, has no cash reserves, and had to take out a loan from the university general fund to balance the books.  That's in addition to $88 million in outstanding debt from the renovation of Pauley Pavilion.  UCLA is up shit creek.

  • MUHawk84MUHawk84 Wealthy Alum

    I assume they will call Beard or Bennett (because their agents are interested, even if the coaches aren't), but this search process really shows the binds UCLA is in right now:

    • Fan base with wildly unrealistic expectations (although canning Howland when they did was arguably the right call because he'd lost the locker room entirely)
    • Athletic director who is both (1) pretty bad at his job and (2) completely unable to manage the fans' unrealistic expectations
    • Meaning the fan base hates the AD more than anyone here has ever hated Brad Bates, but for state university politics reasons (UC-system-wide), the administration is pretty content to let him do what he wants
    • So any marquee sport coach hired by the AD is looked at with severe mistrust from day one, meaning no honeymoon period of any kind that a coach in a high-pressure gig might otherwise expect, particularly when the last guy was fired and a rebuild is needed
    • Because UCLA is tied into the PAC 12 network fiasco, its ability to pay huge amounts of money to lure coaches has held steady or decreased at the same time other major conferences have gotten billion-dollar deals 
    • Even with the PAC 12's new scheme to sell the network rights to private equity investors for an immediate cash infusion, it's widely expected that the University of California system will take Cal and UCLA's share of that to pay general fund expenses of the entire UC rather than allowing the two campus athletic programs to keep it
    • And, to top it all off, $15 million of the limited money UCLA has sitting around for coaches is already tied up in the Mora and Alford buyouts.
    So, that's where we are: an impotent AD, a fan base that will want you fired from day one, and a systemic inability to pay enough money to make all that bullshit worthwhile.
    A postscript: UCLA AD Dan Guerrero is retiring with a department that was $19 million in debt for the 2018-19 school year, has no cash reserves, and had to take out a loan from the university general fund to balance the books.  That's in addition to $88 million in outstanding debt from the renovation of Pauley Pavilion.  UCLA is up shit creek.

    Why is UCLA struggling so much? Is it because they are in the state system,and have to follow certain bylaws?
  • thechuck_2112thechuck_2112 Wealthy Alum
    Part of it is the truly awful PAC 12 network deal (which will stick around until 2024).  Part of it is the internal politics of the University of California system (Guerrero was a truly awful AD, but until the Varsity Blues scandal hit, there wasn't any appetite at UC headquarters in Oakland to get rid of a guy who didn't cause any particular trouble--there were bigger fish to fry).  And part of it is a large increase in spending, both understandable (Pauley Pavilion had to be redone for UCLA to stay competitive, with no more time to wait) and inexplicable (under Chip Kelly, the "nutrition budget" for football players has gone from $1M a year to $5.4M a year, and no one seems to know why).
  • RenmancoRenmanco Wealthy Alum

    Part of it is the truly awful PAC 12 network deal (which will stick around until 2024).  Part of it is the internal politics of the University of California system (Guerrero was a truly awful AD, but until the Varsity Blues scandal hit, there wasn't any appetite at UC headquarters in Oakland to get rid of a guy who didn't cause any particular trouble--there were bigger fish to fry).  And part of it is a large increase in spending, both understandable (Pauley Pavilion had to be redone for UCLA to stay competitive, with no more time to wait) and inexplicable (under Chip Kelly, the "nutrition budget" for football players has gone from $1M a year to $5.4M a year, and no one seems to know why).

  • RenmancoRenmanco Wealthy Alum
    “Nutrition” in Westwood, however ingested, has become more expensive as designer offerings proliferate
    thechuck_2112
  • Redhawks16Redhawks16 Wealthy Alum
    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell
  • digitalhawkdigitalhawk Senior Barfly

    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell

    Treadwell
    dave67
  • 19goSkins19goSkins Senior Barfly

    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell

    Treadwell
    Klacik named OC.
    dave67Bash_Riprock
  • gentbaseball12gentbaseball12 Off-Campus Slummer

    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell

    Dude retired 2 weeks after qualifying for a retention bonus of $4.3 million — quite the power move.
    Love_and_Honor
  • Professor_FateProfessor_Fate Wealthy Alum

    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell

    What does Mrs Fickell think?
  • D_DayD_Day Senior Barfly
    edited February 4

    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell

    What does Mrs Fickell think?
    She's kinda fickle about it.
    UptownHawkProfessor_Fatedave67Love_and_HonorBash_RiprockDICK
  • QuinoaburgerQuinoaburger Wealthy Alum

    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell

    Dude retired 2 weeks after qualifying for a retention bonus of $4.3 million — quite the power move.
    The day before national signing day too.
  • GeneGene Havighurstite
    Fickell is content to wait for the Buckeye job.
  • skinsskins Wealthy Alum
    Gene said:

    Fickell is content to wait for the Buckeye job.

    Why, interim did not go so well?  I don't think that's in his future.
  • Redhawks16Redhawks16 Wealthy Alum
    Gene said:

    Fickell is content to wait for the Buckeye job.

    While Fickell has certainly raised his coaching profile during his tenure at UC, to think he can sit back and wait for OSU is pretty far-fetched imo.
    MowchEDDIELove_and_HonorDICK
  • grumpy1grumpy1 Wealthy Alum
    I don’t think Fickell goes to MSU. NCAA is investigating and there’s little talent.
  • redhawk11redhawk11 Wealthy Alum
    Matt Campbell?
  • QuinoaburgerQuinoaburger Wealthy Alum
    redhawk11 said:

    Matt Campbell?

    He just parlayed a Florida State offer into a huge new contract at Iowa State. I don't think he's going anywhere.
  • Cincykid3Cincykid3 Wealthy Alum
    My buddies from OSU that are in the know (a bit) say Fickell will turn down MSU if offered.
  • skinsskins Wealthy Alum
    Hes pretty content @ UC for with his family..etc.
  • Professor_FateProfessor_Fate Wealthy Alum
    Marvin Lewis hired as co-defensive coordinator at Arizona State
  • 19goSkins19goSkins Senior Barfly
    The stuff is about to hit the fan in East Lansing. He quit because of that....not because a power move over $4.3 large. So much off the field scandal up there!
  • thechuck_2112thechuck_2112 Wealthy Alum

    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell

    Dude retired 2 weeks after qualifying for a retention bonus of $4.3 million — quite the power move.
    Gotta figure there will be some negotiations about that.
  • Love_and_HonorLove_and_Honor Wealthy Alum
    Detroit Free Press @freep

    The frontrunner to replace Mark Dantonio as Michigan State football coach is Luke Fickell, according to sources with knowledge of the athletic department's thinking.
  • mz343mz343 Senior Barfly

    Dantonio out at MSU. All eyes on Fickell

    Dude retired 2 weeks after qualifying for a retention bonus of $4.3 million — quite the power move.
    Gotta figure there will be some negotiations about that.
    The culture is somewhat incestuous in East Lansing.  I think Dantonio is staying in some athletic department role.  He'll get his money.
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