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UConn to Big East

redhawk11redhawk11 Wealthy Alum
edited June 22 in Rogue Boosters
I wonder if the MAC will invite them to join for football. Seems like a very MAC thing to do.

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  • thechuck_2112thechuck_2112 Wealthy Alum
    I am so sick and tired of programs using the MAC as a football parking spot.
  • redhawk11redhawk11 Wealthy Alum

    I am so sick and tired of programs using the MAC as a football parking spot.

    I think most of us are too.

  • RenmancoRenmanco Wealthy Alum
    Move in U Conn....Ravage us, savage us, beat us all to pulps....then accept invite into a P5 conference.

    Who will be next? I'm betting on Liberty.
  • RenmancoRenmanco Wealthy Alum

    I am so sick and tired of programs using the MAC as a football parking spot.

    Those who land here temporarily consider it either Purgatory...or a launching pad.
  • DICKDICK Wealthy Alum
    edited June 22
    The possible move would be to take UConn and UMass both for FB only.  Then you would have two 7 teams divisions, with BG likely moving to the West for football and there would be no need for protected rivalries.

    UConn moving to the Big East brings Gina Auriemma and his women's basketball powerhouse back to the Big East and makes them a power conference again .  That will effect Megan Duffy's defending Big East champion Marquette Warriors.
    AORedHawk33redhawk11
  • 2xHawk2xHawk Off-Campus Slummer
    UConn's move to the Big East should be relatively permanent for all their other sports.  So conceivably they would be looking for a long-term football home.  
  • Love_and_HonorLove_and_Honor Wealthy Alum
    No way to UConn football. It'd be one thing if they were a consistent power, it's another since they're bottom of the barrel with little geographic relevance.

    Bash_Riprock
  • QuinoaburgerQuinoaburger Wealthy Alum
    Given how terrible UConn football is both historically and currently, is there any chance they decide to just drop it if they can't get into a conference? There's no way they'd be able to get a BYU style TV deal.
  • NickskinNickskin Wealthy Alum
    I believe that UConn so values its MBB and WBB programs that it believes that being independent in football is a better option than having a conference affiliation to protect football-- especially if the that conference affiliation is with a lesser conference.  It also appears that they value the travel costs for all other sports will give an additional reason for UConn to stay independent in Football
  • QuinoaburgerQuinoaburger Wealthy Alum
    I actually meant drop football rather than drop realignment. There's no way that football program would be profitable as an independent, is there?
  • NickskinNickskin Wealthy Alum
    edited June 23

    I actually meant drop football rather than drop realignment. There's no way that football program would be profitable as an independent, is there?

    Not unless you are Notre Dame or one of the military schools.

    of course, is it profitable for Miami (or other MAC, Sun Belt, CUSA...) to participate in FB under the current conditions?

    Here is one opinion on what UMass needs - to join a conference.  12.17.17 ARTICLE FROM AMHERST WIRE

    ...even if UMass joins a conference, it is unlikely it will be profitable - - - unless its a P5 conference.
    MUHawk84
  • MUHawk84MUHawk84 Wealthy Alum
    Nickskin said:

    I actually meant drop football rather than drop realignment. There's no way that football program would be profitable as an independent, is there?

    Not unless you are Notre Dame or one of the military schools.

    of course, is it profitable for Miami (or other MAC, Sun Belt, CUSA...) to participate in FB under the current conditions?

    Here is one opinion on what UMass needs - to join a conference.  12.17.17 ARTICLE FROM AMHERST WIRE

    ...even if UMass joins a conference, it is unlikely it will be profitable - - - unless its a P5 conference.
    God bless UMass...their fan base and impression that athletic department is more delusional than UC’s

  • redhawk11redhawk11 Wealthy Alum
    Could the AAC go after Northern Illinois to get the Chicago market?
  • skin66skin66 Wealthy Alum
    Could they go after Miami to get the Hamilton market?
    Bash_RiprockProfessor_FateLove_and_Honorgrumpy1
  • yanksalexyanksalex Wealthy Alum
    redhawk11 said:

    Could the AAC go after Northern Illinois to get the Chicago market?

    JiveHawk promised us NIU to the Big 10 was a done deal like 6 years ago.
    The_Sackman
  • QuinoaburgerQuinoaburger Wealthy Alum
    edited June 24
    yanksalex said:

    redhawk11 said:

    Could the AAC go after Northern Illinois to get the Chicago market?

    JiveHawk promised us NIU to the Big 10 was a done deal like 6 years ago.


    Are we doing this again?

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    yanksalexAORedHawk33thechuck_2112Professor_FateJCook32Love_and_HonorDICK
  • The_SackmanThe_Sackman Wealthy Alum
    I made the list! Dude was fine and Massive Headwound Harry is a great sketch. I regret nothing.

    (does YMCA for the rest of the day)
    grumpy1
  • thechuck_2112thechuck_2112 Wealthy Alum
    Brett McMurphy is now reporting that the AAC, MAC, and C-USA all have no interest in football-only UConn. Seems like they will be an independent. I imagine their rivalry with UMass will be fierce?
    NickskinBash_Riprock
  • NickskinNickskin Wealthy Alum

    Brett McMurphy is now reporting that the AAC, MAC, and C-USA all have no interest in football-only UConn. Seems like they will be an independent. I imagine their rivalry with UMass will be fierce?

    no fear though, the MAC teams will schedule home/home series with UConn to help keep them afloat.
  • redhawk11redhawk11 Wealthy Alum

    Brett McMurphy is now reporting that the AAC, MAC, and C-USA all have no interest in football-only UConn. Seems like they will be an independent. I imagine their rivalry with UMass will be fierce?

    They will play a best of 9 every year and each will also play 3 "non-conference" games in September.
  • DevilGradDevilGrad Wealthy Alum

    I actually meant drop football rather than drop realignment. There's no way that football program would be profitable as an independent, is there?



    Not unless you are Notre Dame or one of the military schools.

    of course, is it profitable for Miami (or other MAC, Sun Belt, CUSA...) to participate in FB under the current conditions?

    Here is one opinion on what UMass needs - to join a conference.  12.17.17 ARTICLE FROM AMHERST WIRE

    ...even if UMass joins a conference, it is unlikely it will be profitable - - - unless its a P5 conference.


    God bless UMass...
    their fan base and impression that athletic department is more delusional than UC’s

    Yeah, those two guys are frickin' crazy.
    redhawk11
  • Love_and_HonorLove_and_Honor Wealthy Alum
    edited June 24
    Here's a question: if instead of having a humpty dumpty AD like Brad Bates we had someone over the same stretch of time who was able to improve our programs from their late 90s/early 2000s peak (let's say 8-10 wins a year in football with a New Year's bowl or two, 20+ wins a year in hoops with a Wally-like run every now and then, solid attendance across the board, good hockey, decent or better non-revenue programs) would we have a shot at an AAC invite now? I imagine not due to small market size and overlap with UC, though one can wonder.
  • DICKDICK Wealthy Alum
    DICK said:

    The possible move would be to take UConn and UMass both for FB only.  Then you would have two 7 teams divisions, with BG likely moving to the West for football and there would be no need for protected rivalries.


    UConn moving to the Big East brings Gina Auriemma and his women's basketball powerhouse back to the Big East and makes them a power conference again .  That will effect Megan Duffy's defending Big East champion Marquette Warriors.
    In thinking more about this possibility, I realized that since we already have a longterm contract with ESPN, unless they were willing to add money for two more teams, all the other teams would have to take less to give UMass and UConn some of the TV money and also would have to give them a share of the annual football playoff money, so really adding any teams at this point would be a financial negative.
  • MooreHawkMooreHawk Off-Campus Slummer

    Here's a question: if instead of having a humpty dumpty AD like Brad Bates we had someone over the same stretch of time who was able to improve our programs from their late 90s/early 2000s peak (let's say 8-10 wins a year in football with a New Year's bowl or two, 20+ wins a year in hoops with a Wally-like run every now and then, solid attendance across the board, good hockey, decent or better non-revenue programs) would we have a shot at an AAC invite now? I imagine not due to small market size and overlap with UC, though one can wonder.

    No. If you look at the AAC membership the smallest city represented is Greenville with a 180k metro area (it was Storrs previously). Even in a world where UC wasn't in the AAC to block us from joining, Toledo or Akron fit their profile better just in terms of Ohio MAC schools.
  • mpurdy22mpurdy22 Havighurstite
    The MAC could get creative. UCONN for football only, UMASS ALL sports and to balance out basketball with the UMASS add, you get a non-FBS school like Northern Kentucky or Southern Illinois or for the PA market a team like Robert Morris who has some NCAA tourney history 8 appearances and NIT bids as well.
  • DevilGradDevilGrad Wealthy Alum
    Or we could just keep the league we have with decent rivalries and mostly reasonable travel costs.  Despite the mascot, UConn isn't a stray dog, and no one should feel obligated to give them a home.  
    JCook32MowchBash_RiprockQuinoaburgerskin66D_DayLove_and_HonorChiefPanic
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