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2020 Cleveland Indians

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  • DICKDICK Wealthy Alum
    Another late comeback today, trailing 6-2 in the 6th, Indians got a 3 run homer by Reyes and a 2 run double in the 7th from Santana to take the lead.  So Indians finished the season with an 8 game losing streak follow immediately by winning 9 of 11.

    Ended up right about where they were 3 weeks ago, one game behind the Twins and tied with the White Sox....Jose Ramirez for MVP!

    Sack, who will be the Yankees 1,2, and 3 starters in this series?
  • DICK said:

    Another late comeback today, trailing 6-2 in the 6th, Indians got a 3 run homer by Reyes and a 2 run double in the 7th from Santana to take the lead.  So Indians finished the season with an 8 game losing streak follow immediately by winning 9 of 11.


    Ended up right about where they were 3 weeks ago, one game behind the Twins and tied with the White Sox....Jose Ramirez for MVP!

    Sack, who will be the Yankees 1,2, and 3 starters in this series?
    Cole, Tanaka, I don't know...Sackman? Probably Deivi Garcia if it were up to me.
    DICK
  • yanksalexyanksalex Wealthy Alum
    ALL RISE BITCHES
  • yanksalex said:

    ALL RISE BITCHES

    That guy was an "ace", huh???
    yanksalex
  • DICKDICK Wealthy Alum
    I don't think Alomar got him out as quickly as he should have.  It was obvious that his fastball had no movement and his breaking balls, for the most part, were not his usual sharp breakers.    Alomar did the same thing with Plesac last start, when he showed  early that he did not have it but he kept him in until the game was a blowout.  Getting Bauer out while the game was still in reach and bringing in McKenszie for 3 or 4 innings might have given the Indians a chance.  

    These games should not be managed the same way you manage a midseason game.  You need a very high sense of urgency.  That is why Dusty Baker failed throughout his career in the postseason, and Alomar did the same thing yesterday.
  • DICK said:

    I don't think Alomar got him out as quickly as he should have.  It was obvious that his fastball had no movement and his breaking balls, for the most part, were not his usual sharp breakers.    Alomar did the same thing with Plesac last start, when he showed  early that he did not have it but he kept him in until the game was a blowout.  Getting Bauer out while the game was still in reach and bringing in McKenszie for 3 or 4 innings might have given the Indians a chance.  


    These games should not be managed the same way you manage a midseason game.  You need a very high sense of urgency.  That is why Dusty Baker failed throughout his career in the postseason, and Alomar did the same thing yesterday.
    I also think that the biggest advantage is that Matt Blake is on the other side and knows these pitchers inside and out.
  • yanksalexyanksalex Wealthy Alum
    GIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • yanksalexyanksalex Wealthy Alum
    Series ended the moment Aaron Boone put Johnny Loaisiga in the game. He tried this same experiment in extras vs. Houston in the ALCS last year and it went equally well. 

    Excited for our new manager next year. Good luck vs. Tampa to the Tribe fans.
    Swoop2005
  • Swoop2005Swoop2005 Summer Orientee
    yanksalex said:

    Series ended the moment Aaron Boone put Johnny Loaisiga in the game. He tried this same experiment in extras vs. Houston in the ALCS last year and it went equally well. 


    Excited for our new manager next year. Good luck vs. Tampa to the Tribe fans.
    Had the Yankees lost that game...they should’ve made Boone sleep in the dugout. He completely mismanaged the pen last night.
  • The_SackmanThe_Sackman Wealthy Alum
    Too easy. Might need a better front office IMO. 
  • DICKDICK Wealthy Alum
    edited October 2020
    Congratulations to our resident Yankee Fans.  Your team had great AB's in both games, and the length of the lineup and the constant pressure kept every pitcher from ever being comfortable.

      I would give credit to Sandy Alomar for learning from his errors in Game 1.   He did have that sense of urgency last night and the Indians fought very hard down to the end.  Alomar pretty much forced Boone to go to Loaisiga in the 7th.  Britton was at his pitch limit and had walked two in a row with left hand hitting Naylor coming up.  Alomar used right hand hitting pinch hitter Luplow.  Matt and Arod were critical of that move by Alomar, but it just showed me they had not done enough homework.  While Luplow has had a disastrous season, in the last week he had come up huge with 3 late game extra base hits driving in multiple runs to bring the Indians from behind to either win the game or tie it.  So Boone almost had to bring in a righty to face Luplow. Luplow came through in that situation for the 4th time in a week.  Basically every big hit in all the Indians big wins at the end of the year came from Ramirez, Luplow, and Hernandez.

    The umpires really hurt Indians pitchers last night...12 walks, and there were so many crucial pitches which the video showed were strikes but were called balls.  In the Yankee 9th, the very first pitch of the inning was sharp breaker in the dirt on which Stanton had a checked swing, which was miscalled a ball ( IMO).  That led to him drawing a walk without ever swinging against a pitcher that I do not think he could hit ( nasty breaking balls).  Gleyber Torres was struck out on a perfect pitch by Hand, but the ump called it a ball and he ended up getting on when hand stumbled backing up on that chopper.  If either or both of those calls had been made, chances are strong that the Indians would have won 9-8 as Gardner and Sanchez both made outs and nobody was hitting the ball hard against Hand.

    There were also many other missed calls ( according to the strike box) on both sides, but in this game the majority of those were in the Yankees favor.  Indian pitchers wound up walking 12 and that had to be easily the season high, and combined with the Yankee batters having great AB's put every pitcher under great pressure.  Until Chapman came in for the last two innings, no pitcher for either team ever really was successful, they all struggled, and the missed strike calls had a lot to do with it.  In a game with over 400 pitches, even if the plate ump gets 95% right that is still 20 missed calls and that is enough  to change the game results.  The high scoring 10-9 game was at least in part due to all the missed strike calls ( according to the strike box, it was happening all night).  I am ready to have a machine make the calls for the home plate ump.
    RedseaProfessor_FateThe_Sackman
  • yanksalexyanksalex Wealthy Alum
    There is no such thing as pretty much forcing Boone to go to Loaisiga. Britton had thrown a lot of pitches, but absolutely could have been given another hitter; we could have gone to Ottavino; we could have gone to Holder. Loaisiga has never been a back end option for us and, while the other options weren't great, Loaisiga was by far the worst of them. 

    Even crazier was bringing the guy back out for the 8th. If Boone had it in his head that he could go to Chapman in the 8th, you need to start the inning with him. The playoffs is no time to try to steal outs from a bad reliever. 
  • The_SackmanThe_Sackman Wealthy Alum
    yanksalex said:

    There is no such thing as pretty much forcing Boone to go to Loaisiga. Britton had thrown a lot of pitches, but absolutely could have been given another hitter; we could have gone to Ottavino; we could have gone to Holder. Loaisiga has never been a back end option for us and, while the other options weren't great, Loaisiga was by far the worst of them. 


    Even crazier was bringing the guy back out for the 8th. If Boone had it in his head that he could go to Chapman in the 8th, you need to start the inning with him. The playoffs is no time to try to steal outs from a bad reliever. 
    Ottavino is trash.
  • The_SackmanThe_Sackman Wealthy Alum
    FRONT OFFICE!!!!!!!
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